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Funny side note: Dagmar v. Bohnstein, chairwoman of the German-Iranian Chamber of Commerce, has just mentioned that U.S. authorities. are not to keen on punishing their own when it comes to the Iran embargo. There would be hardly any restrictions for U.S. products in Iran but merchandise from Europe has vanished since companies are facing harsh punishment, namely blacklisting from the U.S. market, when doing business there.

That`s a very billionair way of handling things, I have to say! :cool:
 

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The USA under current leadership indeed seems to be distancing from our former Euro allies, so its not surprising. After failed attempts invading Korea & SE Asia to "prevent the spread of communism" and Iraq & Afghanistan to "establish democracy" looks like Venezuela might be the next target. Since corporate American & Wall St. still dictate policy here big $ (aka billionaire) will always have the final say. Those who object will be labeled "socialist", "anti-semitic", even "bimbo".
 

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a recent survey asking for "a country that Germany can trust as a partner" showed

- France 89%
- UK 54%
- Russia (!) 35%
- China 28%
- USA 24%

Frankly, the USA : Russia relation freaks me out a little, even with all the east Germans and re-patriated fellas from Russia. I think the abuse of data hubs in Germany through the NSA for all sorts of industrial espionage has broken a lot of glass. And the recent data collecting issue with FB/Google/android etc. is not helping either.
 

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Hey Bucho,  thanks for your in-country perspective.  I use Yahoo News linked articles to keep informed, and they exclude input from other country citizenry.

Most of us regardless of location are satisfied with simple comforts and enjoyments for ourselves, family, & friends. but the few who are addicted to the unlimited pursuit of $ and power seem to control us.  "They" need to keep a segment of the population poor & needy, as an incentive to recruit tools of exploitation and/or violence.

Thank God for the few willing to step up and pursue unselfish representation of others.
 

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At least you guys have low consumer taxes. Over here, thump screws are tightening. Example:

I once had a bank customer who ran a venture processing mink fur. He yielded a lot of mink body oil as a waste product. The community failed to supply his remote facility with machine electricity so he had to buy generators. He could have run them with oil from the scraped off mink fat leaving as small a "footprint" as one could think off, but that would have been considered tax evasion. Instead, they made him buy taxated diesel fuel, roughly 2$ a gallon tax alone.

Another example:
Whe have this "imperial citizen" movement here who neglect the Federal Republic as such, print their own passports and documents etc. Mostly middle aged men with too much time on their hands who are disgruntled about all sorts of modern day`s duties. The other day, press reportet several (lightly) injured police when a household resisted them having a meter installed. Everybody went like "hahaha electricity wasn`t free in the empire either!" . The truth however was that the household didn`t steal but collectet their own solar electricity and didn?t see why they were liable to "renewable energy duty" for consuming it like anybody else consuming any other kind of energy. That`s all it takes these days to become asociated with the so-called "self-contained and imperial citizen scene" which is reported to have a 10% part of far right members along with a slightly overproportional amount of (legal) gun owners - in German understanding thats a scary bunch of nazi weirdos.

BTW "Renewable energie duty" is not aplicable to large industrial consumers, only private households and small ventures.... Lawmaking always sounds great on paper but at the end of the day the details fall on the little man`s feet, especially if you try to do something out of the box.
 

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What? I thought "a scary bunch of nazi weirdos" was a USA pheonomenon ?

Yup, it seems lawmakers are public servants, and fossil fuel energy purveyors and "large industrilal consumers" have WAY more policy influence than citizens.

"mink oil is used in several medical and cosmetic products. Mink oil is also used for treating, conditioning and preserving nearly all kinds of leather." so maybe your customer was able to tap into that?

Back in Hawaii there was a movement by some with original indigenous occupant bloodline who stopped paying property taxes since the USA stole their land. They also printed their own "Hawaiian Kingdom" drivers licenses among other expressions of disconnecting. I don't think it went well in the long run.

Lucky we can go fishing and forget about all that.
 

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Bucho, Americans DO pay IMO high consumer taxes. Starting with my state 7% sales tax and utility bills have all kinds of this n that nicks. And theres the 10% federal excise tax off the top of my tackle sales. Its a mystery how many layers of taxes there are on gas in my car.
 

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its 19% general VAT/Sales tax here, only food is reduced to 7%. Generally more than 20% in north European countries.

If your sales and excise tax is effectively combined that would actually be similar. I thought you had only a modest sales tax. Same here with the gas tax. Around 70% of what we pay for gas is tax of one kind or another, depending on oil prices.
 

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Wow, never knew how high Euro sales taxes are.  I'm of the belief that VATs are designed to stick low earners with a disproportionate amount of the bill for public services.  Like, whereas minimum wage workers may spend most of their income on taxable consumables, a wealthier person may spend only a tiny fraction of theirs, stashing their excess income in investments and holding institutions.  The perceived fairness of such a system depends on where one stands in the poor-rich spectrum, and $ buys the means to influence public opinion.  An example of this is that "red" (Republican party supporting) states with the most need for gov medical expense assistance viill vote against "blue" (Democratic party) political office candidates who support single payer aka "Medicare for All" because their media heroes labels Democrats as "socialist" or even "communist".

And someone in a Moscow office is enjoying the show.
 

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An average earning single living German is due to 49% of combined social duties and income tax so good luck with the "stashing"!. Top income tax rate of 42% starts at around 60.000$. Problem is, back in the 60ties when this tarif was introduced, a top manager with 100.000 Deutschmark p.a. could affort 10 middle class cars and relief himself from all social insurance duties. Today, a "top" earner machines car parts at Volkswagen and can barely afford a home in a larger city.

We call that cold (tax tarif-) progression. The social insurance tarif is scaling up each year in order to keep up with inflation while the income tarif doesn`t which is why so many people face substantial social insurance deductions, high income tax AND high consumer taxes - including self produced green energy which is the last straw for some folks. So forgive me if I am a little thin skinned when it comes to financial re-distribution ideas from the left.

That being said, the topic is "American Jobs". If that is still an issue, maybe tax funded free education is something worth looking into rather than trade tariffs and subsidies. When we speak about international competitiveness here - which we do a lot as we are (unfortionatly still) export-oriented- it is always about innovation, quality standards and workforce qualification, never trade tariffs/subsidies. We are actually experiencing a return of jobs from China lately. They are shamelessly stealing technology, are too far away for production on-demand and the workforce there is not too cheap any more anyway. With a high degree of skill and mechanisation, many jobs are becoming more economical to be created over here close to the customer.
 

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I would guess that German tax policy is still controlled by the "haves" and not the "haves less", why moderate income prosperity has gone downhill like in the USA. Mainstream media also controlled by the "haves" effectively propagandize against "leftist" or "socialist" policy that would shift the tax burden to those that can better afford it.

I think most Americans consider excessive tariffs detrimental to consumers, tho subsidies are set in stone by those with $ political influence. Again, media is more beholden to their corporate advertisers than the average citizen. So best the "haves less" can do is survive with even less.
 

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Trust me, if Bernie, AOC, Kamala, or 1/2 dozen other socialists come in power we'll be in the same boat

But my predictions is that'll only last 4 years until the next election

The socialists in American think under socialism everything will be free, but who's going to pay for it?

And I do not believe that'll happen because AOC's bat-shit crazy, Kamala's a pot-smoking wonder, and Bernie wanted to align the US w/ Cuba and their policies

Recent polls showing that Trump actually has a chance in 2020
 

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Recent polls showing that Trump actually has a chance in 2020

Now that would be something! Oh how I`d love to see all the stupid (German) faces! I don`t care what he`s up to and what issues he has with Europe and Mercedes and everything, just to enjoy that moment would be worth it. :D
 

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Bucho, you were right about Turkey's Erdogan. The lone voice with veto power to prevent Finland and Sweden membership in NATO.

Quote: Let´s not include Turkey, that´s another story. At the end of the day, Trump is following the american Dream, Putin is a patriot in his own sleazy KGB way and Merkel does whatever it takes to be re-elected. Erdogan however is a total prick who is seriously trying to re-establish the otoman empire at all costs, encluding his countries economical downfall.
 

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I'm kinda missing the mean tweets, store shelves being stocked and $1.79/gallon gas

But my predictions is that'll only last 4 years until the next election

I said this in 2019. In 2021, Virginia had a red wave sweep. I believe in 2022, we'll see other states in the nation follow.
 

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Que Sera, sera

So you really don't care about the high gas prices, inflation eating away at your earnings and retirements, high grocery prices, and supply chain shortages?

Wait until gas hits $10/gallon and the Mohawks and azz-less pants start showing up (Mad Maxx)
 

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Long ago in a land far away in a sweat lodge I heard a voice in my head "change what you cannot accept & accept what you cannot change".

JiggerJohn sez "yust keep on yiggin"
 
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