jjsjigs,well thank you for the information.Without netting any Alewife Herring,Raystown is a bust.I stayed all night from about 7:00 pm to 4:30 am.We had no idea what to do about castnetting them little fools,lol.Let's see,we set up at dark with submersible lights,had tons of little minnows around about an inch long,no fish though.Glad I bought them worms and a new headlight at Walmart on the way there.Needed both.Fish wise,ended up with 6 nice gills and a cast netted small crappie,lol.Met up with a guide at about 4:15 am as he was going out netting them herring.He told me that without them bluegills and worms are the only ticket to catching anything.He said the best thing is to get there about 3:30 am,net the bait then head out for a day of fishing.Sounds like a loonnnnggg day to me,lol.Here's a couple pics of the lake anyway.I think that I'll stick to flounder for awhile.