Doug, having not fished these jigs yet, I am not sure how much satin to put on there, but I have been using basically one thick bunch per side of the jig, then put some flash on over that. It seems that the white satin has a different personality if you will, it just seems easier to handle and easier to tie, just everything about it is easier than other colors and I don't know why. maybe I have two different brands of satin don't know, but the easier handling white seems to have thicker threads in it. gonna have to see what the pond fish like to be sure.