PB Zander (Walleye)

Bucho

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Left the trout alone today and made use of the calm weather to go after zander. Most folks here let the jig bump the ground continously to resemble a gobie, but I heard several times now that in hard pressed waters a calm steady swimbait retrieve would do better for larger fish so I gave it a shot. First time I tackled :Banane44: the 70cm!

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Hawnjigs

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28" walleye would be a bragging fish out here too. Never heard of one that big caught from shore in the daytime in my area.

Are zander good eating? Had a 19-20" walleye on the table yesterday evening - caught midmorning, in water stringer bled immediately then cleaned & iced, delicious meal for 2.

Gamakatsu light wire? If so, how do you like them? I've been using 1/0 & 2/0 a lot and am pleasantly surprised how well the micro barbs hold.
 

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Nice fish, and the right jig. Do you tip the jig with anything alive (or dead)?

God made Walleye for the fillet knife. One of the best eating fresh water fish imho
 

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Good Job and a very nice fish! We have also taken jigs and trolled them along the bottom or mid depth with pretty good success during the day. Haven't tried one yet with a spinner though, just a plain jig with a worm.
 

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Thanks everybody!

Zander grows a bit bigger than walleye, the all tackle record is some what around 40lbs I believe. It is one of the few freshwater fish I eat, but I don´t boast about it since many inland customers of mine are more conservative with the small stock of predatory fish they have in their hard pressed urban canal or suburbian gravel pit. No probs here at the 100km long Kiel Canal however. They have all seen a jig or two in their time but enough eating fish for everyone.  

No tipping involved, it is not common here and I don´t want to give people the idea it were ncecessary with hair jigs.

Hook is a large trusty 32833, no monkey business with the bucktails! I once got a call from a peacock bass-angling-travel-guide asking me for a bigger version of a similar jig. Those things go double digid and straighten anything else flat out. I charge good money for my jigs and I never know where my merchandise gets bit.
 

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You do good work Bucho & I appreciate your jig & fish porn
 

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Today I tried night fishing with crank baits. I arrived around sunset and started out with a belly spinner jig in the dusk that got me a nice 40cm perch, equalling my p.b. from summer. It took the jig right under the rod tip just before I wanted to lift it out of the water. That thing is well over 5". Reminds me of how sceptical some of you guys were when I made my first jigs that size with perch in mind - its a different species after all, close but not the same.

When it got dark, I switched to a dark crank that only got me two undersized fish. Then I put on a 5" Bomber long A knockoff that got me a limit of zander around 20" in just a few minutes. Incredibly effective method! No snags, no missed bites, just chuck a shallow running slim crank out into the open water and a slow steady retrieve will get them good. I was sorry I harvested the two smaller fish, the action seemed just about to start and they got bigger one by one. Thinking of it, they actually did, starting out with the smallest undersized one, it went like 30, 38, 48, 50, 55cm... Who kows where it might have ended?  

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Another 60cnm and 72cm today, just 2 hours of spinning cranks in the dark. 3 fish of 70+ in 4 trips - this is getting out of control! One of the lures isn´t actually a crank bait but a 1 oz far casting seatrout lure with a dressed treble for larger silhouette and calmer wobble. I put a large glow eye on it but lost faith when it fell of.    

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Love seeing the zander! You are finding some good size fish..... darn good eating too. They have been selling small size imported zander fillets at a grocery store near me and even have a sign next to them saying how similar to yellow perch the flavor is. The price of actual yellow perch fillets is through the roof!!

The casting spoon is an interesting idea. I have gotten out only 3 times this fall after dark for walleye because the water temps have just stayed too hot. The stick cranks can be amazing on some days for big fish. I still catch way more on jigs though. Doll hair jigs, twister grubs and boot tail swim baits rule my tackle box. I am going to pull out some casting spoons and give them a try. Thanks for the inspiration. Good luck and hope you keep finding those big fish!
 

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The fins have a long tradition of metal-core resin spoons for seatrout fishing in cold shallow water. They have a simple shallow running wobble action but cast a mile. They homeshop them using all sorts of cigarette pack foil, fly tying materials, real fish skin etc.

These here are a bit pricey but folks seem to buy it. There is a ton  of cheaper knockoffs on the German market but these are the real deal:

http://www.kauppa.wobbleri.fi/catal...d=709&osCsid=9351ee8c8b2fd2c4d38bdca3eb4056f8

I was impressed with the cranks productivity but not too happy with neither the diving lip tackling the edge of the bank nor handling too many trebles at night so I will give the trout spoons a few more goes. They always say the biggest zaner dwell out in the open water, and there is a lots of activity in the middle of the 150m wide canal.
 

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Congratulations on (finally) dialing into big zander - big walleye FROM SHORE here are almost exclusively an after dark resource as well.

I swap out the multiple trebles on my (rarely used) cranks with a single tail double hook - Gamakatsu is the best but Mustads are OK with a point hone.

It must be difficult to find a productive spot on such a large featureless boat transport waterway - how did you do it?

Looks like your gear is capable of casting to mid canal with a properly ballistic lure? What depth retrieve do you prefer?

How does zander compare with your other species on the table?
 

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Zander can be caught all day but they are intimidatet by too much light. They hug the ground with only a very slim strike zone of just a few inch. Night fishing however is a completely different ball game. They then become active and hunt all over the water column. I try to keep the lure as shallow as possible, together with the surface feeding bait. Say, 1-3 feet max. A silver/black color casts a better contrast against the sky than chartreuse but still reflects flash to the sides.

Featureless the canal is only on the surface. It has been widenend and partially reconstructed multiple times. I use the navionics software on my cell phone to mark catches. Good spots are hard earned and well kept secrets. The ground is surprisingly different, with respect to both snags and fish. Problem is the zander usually chase their prey over the smooth sole until they can press them against the embankment. They do the same with the lure and dont strike until you come very close to the snags, no matter where you pick the fish up.

Even at night, most strikes come over the embankment - but some dont. Since everybody uses light, floating cranks, it is hard to tell how a decent far casting seatrout lure will work that reaches out where the big ships churn through the bait.

Zander is one of the very few fresh water fisch I eat, it`s as good as it gets.
 

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BTW these are the lures, on top the resin spoon, nearly 1 oz, below the floating crank. Both run aproxymately 1-2 foot deep.

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Hawnjigs

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OK, guess the baitfish being attacked on the surface is an opportunity clue. Judging by your lure choices they must fairly large.

Would also guess that a passing boat prop wash could create a predator feeding opportunity as baitfish are churned up and disoriented, even injured.

I've noticed that during the seasonal night bite for walleye here when crankbaits were preferred by most, there were times when a jig near bottom in 20-30 ft. of water would get bit and possibly produce larger fish than cranks.
 
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