duffy - There is really only skim ice around here. Same sort of yo-yo weather pattern. We did get a couple days of temps down in the teens but then it bounced back up to the 40's yesterday and doesn't look like it is gonna get consistently back below freezing for at least another week. If i am going to be ice fishing any time soon, i will be taking a trip North up into Michigan. The area up there i traveled to last year sounds like it has about 5" to 7" of ice most places and a few snowmobiles are just starting to get out.