yesterday 1000 of these in size 4 black came in the mail from lurecraft, and I looked some of them over real good. I like them so far. they are as sharp as the matzuo hooks which surprised me, the wire may be a hair thicker on the size 4's when compaired with the matzuo and they say the steel is softer which is good, this should nip the broken hook problem that we have been dealing with on the others. the hooks point is bent downward by quite alot and I for one will pull the points upward some before fishing them. I can't see where the barbs are any bigger, if they are it isn,t by much, on size 4 anyway. I really doubted that EC could put out a sickle comparable in sharpness with the matzuo's, but I was happily proved wrong.