couple wool and satins

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the thing about that though is it will be dirty and full of hay debris etc. I don't know how that would work out, washing the wool after it's off the hide. we as tiers kinda need the fibers to stay together I would think, and by washing it while off the hide, it would seem that the fibers would end up all over the place, I may be wrong tho, as I have not any experience with this.
 

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Getting a little confused (not hard for me) about the wool. I thought Red was using "Wool Roving" and was what others were looking to use. Would someone unconfuse (is that actually a word?) me. Thanks, Pop
 

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"Red has a local slaughterhouse,I believe, that is happy to GIVE him all he wants. But none of the stuff he has given me is actually attached to a hide, as such. I know Red likes to pre stretch the material by hand ,keeps big tufts of it in ziplock bags,but in general if ya can get it sheared from a real animule, you're good to go! We just pinch a section from a big clump of wool, stretch it a bit and start tyin' !"

A bunch of the guys bought the roving just to get started, from all that I've read.
 

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Here's the pics of the satin my SIL gave me
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no, red isn't using the roving, he is using wool cut from a skinned hide that was first washed and dried, so his wool probably has alot of what they call crimp in it, or kinkyness from not being processed at all. from what I have read they tend to wash the wool in hot water to remove the natural grease in the hair.
 

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tied one jig again tonite when I got home at 1.00am from work. used the gray wool and a gr. chart. head. so this one is a little darker in the color spectrum.
 

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used cheap costume satin from joanns fabrics again in white, blue, green, and some silver holo flashabou, bout 4 strands per side. and like I said gray sculpin wool from wapsi, still on the hide. tried not to use very much wool for the wing where the blue satin is because I am wanting to make some a little more narrow than a threadfin shad, more like a minnow in a pond, there is a pond I fish with a buddy that is close by, and I love using hand ties there.
 

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have to admit I was a little skeptical about using cloth fibers on these wool jigs, but really am glad I saw fit to try red's way, I can see a crappie nibble on these jigs too, or maybe a 1" gulp minnow, both of those used for a jig tipping are winners. probably takes me about 15 minutes to make one of these jigs just right, but I enjoy every minute of it, with every layer and color of satin and flash you can see it start to pop, and you know when you have enough stuff on over the wool.
 

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Fatman said:
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"Red has a local slaughterhouse,I believe, that is happy to GIVE him all he wants. But none of the stuff he has given me is actually attached to a hide, as such. I know Red likes to pre stretch the material by hand ,keeps big tufts of it in ziplock bags,but in general if ya can get it sheared from a real animule, you're good to go! We just pinch a section from a big clump of wool, stretch it a bit and start tyin' !"

A bunch of the guys bought the roving just to get started, from all that I've read.

Thanks for the reply Fatman. How does the Roving differ from wool off the skin? Thanks again, Pop

 

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Redear, That new one is a very nifty tie!! Keep up the great work, and productive experiments with wool/satin shapes &shades! Beautiful creativity!!

Pop, The main feature of fresh wool off real sheepskin is its awesome ability to instantly draw in & hold water to give a "3 dimensional" shape to the main jig body. Highly processed wool & artificial material doesn't seem to do this; Red has experimented with many alternative wool variations and tells me none remotely approaches his local neighborhood slaughterhouse's throw-away skins !
 

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Thanks Jigger John, I guess I need to find some sheep. Pop
 
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