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Site Sponsors - what to do?
11-03-2012, 01:16 AM,
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Site Sponsors - what to do?
You should know me by now..... stuck with a decision so need to beat it to death before i jump. Get out your sticks. I may move (maybe delete) this thread after we discuss it, but REALY TRULY want HONEST opinions from the regular members who log in daily, or weekly, or monthly. You are the ones that make this site what it is. Even if you dont post often, or have never posted........ i want to hear your oppinion. My PM box is open if you would rather talk in private.


- How to deal with sponsorship of the website -

Just got an email yesterday from an owner of a retail tying supply website asking about what programs we offer to be featured on JigCraft. haha, like i have a business plan. Blush I also recieved an email from the JC member last week asking a similar question. The JC member is starting a webstore and wanted to know about getting listed on the website as a supplier.

At this point, the only supplier links i have put on the main index pages of the site, are for suppliers who are members of the forum. Supplier Index Have never charged anything to be put up on the Supplier Index, just have to PM me and tell me you want to be there. Wink My thought is that i want to help the active members of the site in any way i can. Not like we will send hordes of net surfers to any site just because it is listed on JigCraft.com, but it is still just the notion of getting the name out there. Rolleyes

Thoughts:

- I personally do not like the thought of sponsored advertising right on the forum pages and can say i will NEVER try to make revenue from google ads here. But....... every other forum/site i am a member of has fishing specific advertising, and i just look past it.

- I could easily make enough money to pay the web hosting cost with this cash - but the cost of the hosting is not all that steep, so is it really worth it? I accept the fact that we will never get paid for the time we put in just for maintaining the site. To me it is a hobby just as much as tying jigs.

-I don't want to make money off of the members here..... but would have no issue with taking money from a bigger biz. Bigfish

- Letting the bigger companies in is a kick in the teeth to the little guys i have been supporting for the past 3 years. Undecided

- I don't want to have to set rules on who can post links to suppliers, websites, other forums, and all that crap - NO THANKS!

- Activity level is slowly going up.... we are up over 50 members (the regulars at the end of the bar..... Norm!) that log in every day and would guess another 40 members who log in only once a week or so. Maybe not all that huge a number, but we all spend our fair share on this 'craft' just the same.

------------ In sort of a pickel in my mind - don't want to offend ANYone here in ANYway but wondering if we could expand a little with different opportunities. Give me your thoughts........ i will take the good, bad, and ugly all the same, so let it rip! Icon14
JigCraft.com : Co-Founder
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11-03-2012, 01:56 AM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
That's a tough call. I know some of the fly sites I'm on have sponsorship and they have a box with their logo on it. and once in a while they post a thread about specials going on that month.

I'd also want to see what feedback there was for or against how they've done with their customer service

If you do go with it make sure tht you hold all the cards
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11-03-2012, 12:28 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-03-2012, 01:52 PM by Pup.)
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
I have my own web site (blog) and have been a moderator at a large Indiana web site for 11 years. The constant that I find present, through all of my personal experience, is that, ultimately, an owner will do what he feels is best for himself and his site. And it seems to work out...always.

Grumblings occur with changes, but quiet down as time moves forward. Some contributors (members and/or sponsors) leave, but many do stay on and others continue to join. Just keep the major contributors, those who play well with others, hanging around. You'll find out rather quickly who they really are. Wink


(11-03-2012, 01:16 AM)AtticaFish Wrote: - I personally do not like the thought of sponsored advertising right on the forum pages and can say i will NEVER try to make revenue from google ads here. But....... every other forum/site i am a member of has fishing specific advertising, and i just look past it.

I don't pay attention to any of it. I rely on myself and, perhaps, a few posted opinions of products and services.

(11-03-2012, 01:16 AM)AtticaFish Wrote: - I could easily make enough money to pay the web hosting cost with this cash - but the cost of the hosting is not all that steep, so is it really worth it? I accept the fact that we will never get paid for the time we put in just for maintaining the site. To me it is a hobby just as much as tying jigs.

Take on the financial support and the site can be grown in other directions/ways if that is what you'd like.

(11-03-2012, 01:16 AM)AtticaFish Wrote: -I don't want to make money off of the members here..... but would have no issue with taking money from a bigger biz. Bigfish

Agreed. However, do make it known that you are providing an advertising opportunity and not a stake or interest in the site.

(11-03-2012, 01:16 AM)AtticaFish Wrote: - Letting the bigger companies in is a kick in the teeth to the little guys i have been supporting for the past 3 years. Undecided

Again, you should consider what is best for you and your site.

(11-03-2012, 01:16 AM)AtticaFish Wrote: - I don't want to have to set rules on who can post links to suppliers, websites, other forums, and all that crap - NO THANKS!

That whole squabble is pretty ridiculous, isn't it?

(11-03-2012, 01:16 AM)AtticaFish Wrote: - Activity level is slowly going up.... we are up over 50 members (the regulars at the end of the bar..... Norm!) that log in every day and would guess another 40 members who log in only once a week or so. Maybe not all that huge a number, but we all spend our fair share on this 'craft' just the same.

You have a very fine site. Icon14 Icon14
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11-03-2012, 12:36 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
I think you should charge for sponsorship! 95% of dont have a clue how much time and effort you have in running this site! I know i am more than happy to chip in. As far how you do it.... Sorry Im not much help. Fishing ads dont really bother me. Heck i think we should pay to have a site in our signature.
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11-03-2012, 01:06 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
In all honesty, if the guys that have small businesses here like Ron Don and others don't mind then the rest of us should not have a problem with advertisers. I'm a new member here and know some of the members from other sites and I can say that I really like this site and I know it cost money so if you can end up getting the cost of the site paid for I have no problem, if you make a few bucks so what? It isn't like you would make the amount you should for having the site anyway and it isn't everyday you have someone willinmg to turn down advertising dollars and pay their own money just to keep members happy. I guess what I'm trying to say is, we pretty much know each other, most of us here use smaller businesses to get out products from and generally ignore the big interest. I say that you ask the business owners here, if they don't mind then you have your answer as I ignore the ads anyway.
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11-03-2012, 01:55 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
I found a home here at JigCraft and as long as I'm breathing I won't leave due to advertising. I'm loyal to the people I get my supplies from and would only buy something elsewhere if my regular supplier doesn't carry it so if you can get retailers to pay for this site and make a few bucks then I say go for it. People here are friendly,more than I can say for other sites I've visited or joined. I joined a new site recently,introduced myself and not one person welcomed me. You spend a lot of time with your site and I think you deserve compensation. If someone want's to be a sponsor here they should pay for the right to be one.
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11-03-2012, 02:22 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
Your site is far above average and is one rare site wherein folks are
truly willing to share. I certainly support your efforts and see no difficulty in taking on advertising for a price. You have already shown your members a great deal of personal integrity and I'm sure the members will support you in whatever your decision turns out to be, I know I will. Good Fishing, Mac
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11-03-2012, 06:56 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
I do not have a problem with site sponsorships. Sometimes they are useful for special sales and announcements.

The only thing I would object to is trying to censor people who have a bad experience with a vendor and post a negative review. A couple of sites I have been on only allow positive reviews. What's the point of having reviews if people can't share the bad ones?

I also think prohibiting members from posting links to other sites and forums is BS, but it appears you already agree with me on that one. I am a member on one of those boards because it's the only active fishing board for my state, and I hate it. I would leave if there were any other viable forums out there.
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11-03-2012, 07:32 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
I say go for it! The time and expense you put in merits something in return. Personally, I overlook ads. As far as sponsors go the members here know who the BS suppliers are and will continue to buy from their own supplier that they are comfortable doing business with.. I feel like the other members on here pretty much feel the same way.........my .02
first liar does not have a chance!
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11-03-2012, 09:42 PM,
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RE: Site Sponsors - what to do?
I'm with everybody else.If you can get a sponcer to pay you for the use of advertising,go fo it.Heck,it might be a good thing when we need something that nobody else has here.There might be a couple things that we don't have,lol.
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