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Unions made America Great !
08-16-2019, 10:34 AM,
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Unions made America Great !
Back in the day when my wife worked for Safeway we got nearly full medical, vision, & dental coverage + she retired with a decent UNION pension.  Currently here at the Ogallala NE Safeway employees have NO union, NO pension, not the best medical, and wages are less than what my wife made many years ago.  

"Income inequality" has become a buzz topic which I didn't fully understand.  This article helped.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...ty-problem
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08-17-2019, 04:14 AM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
I hear U.S. economy grows at an impressive 3% while Germany is facing a recession. I do not expect the American Working Class to benefit from it, let alone their environment or general quality of living, but Trump delivers. You got to give him that.
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08-17-2019, 11:33 AM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
If the "working class" doesn't benefit from "an impressive 3%" growth who does? Right, that is the definition of income inequality.

Would you prefer Trump to Merkel leadership? Is Chancellor Merkel a liar like our President? I think Mr. Trump passed 10,000 a month or more ago.
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08-18-2019, 02:21 AM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
I do not say I like what he does. I only say you folks get what you asked for.

We have had a cut down of union rights and social benefits here, too, but that happened around millenium when left green was in charge and heavily undermined trust in the political system as a whole. Now we have a formerly conservative administration that leaves the left no space to breathe, making things even worse. Former 38-50% working class party SPD has been dwarfed down to 13%, breaking even with far right AFD. People are loosing their faith.

Trump on the other side is straight in his own twisted way. The way I got it, his administration is very diligent and efficent in cutting down all sorts of regulations that are in the way of corporate profit, and it starts to pay off. Not to the majority, but it pays. And when it comes to blunt lies, I have to admit I am beginning to look up to him for what he manages to get away with. I believe he is using them as rethorical means, in order to get attention or "reach" as they call it these days.

If you ask a German politician a concrete question, he or she will go like "that is a delicate matter which we will tackle only under consideration of all possible interests blahblahblahblah...." They are so occupied with not stepping on the toes of any particular political intersst group that they literally say nothing, and people are sick of it. Its easy not to lie if you never state anything at all.
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08-18-2019, 12:34 PM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
Bucho, you seem better informed about USA politics than many citizens here. Even less Americans including myself have much knowledge about Germany, and I appreciate your informative input.

I'm confused how the German "left" politicians undermined union rights and social bennies? Here in the USA those goals are the agenda of the conservative Republican "right" passing "right to work" laws allowing freeloaders to opt out of joining unions while still benefitting from union representation, and allowing employers to fire at whim. Benefits like food stamps are on the chopping block when Republicans control lawmaking agencies. I am appalled that our public lands funding is being cut and use rights apportioned to private industry under our current administration.

I sign a lot of petitions to our state lawmakers, and they NEVER directly answer a question just like yours.

As for lies, they are occasionally appropriate for compassionate reasons, used for willful self service they are an act of COWARDICE.
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08-18-2019, 02:05 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-18-2019, 08:49 PM by Bucho.)
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RE: Unions made America Great !
(08-18-2019, 12:34 PM)Hawnjigs Wrote: I'm confused how the German "left" politicians undermined union rights and social bennies? 

Edit: Sorry I realized I was wildly off topic. Lets try again!

They passed a law that prohibited splinter unions from taking labor action. Classic example are well payed, privileged pilots that hold the entire airline ransom for ever higher pensions etc. which stand in no relation to the rest of the workforce. Today, only the largest union within a corporation can take action and function as a tarif partner. Sounds fair on paper but was a signinficant blow to many industrie`s unions.

"bennies" changed with respect to what followed after the first 12-18 months of compulsory premium fundet social security unemployment money. It used to be a second phase of tax fundet unemployment money that was low but indefinete and didn`t take your savings into account. Today however you are expected to sell/move out of an "inapropiatly" oversized home, liquidise private pension plans etc. before you are entitled to ask for tax money that pays the compulsory medical plan among others. They also ask for your partners income if you share a household, married or not, even same sex. Again, sounds fair, but has been a game changer for many middle class households strucken by structrural unemployment in the latter years of their work life.

Many say the conservative administration that followed stole the economical thunder of these (and other) measures. It is save to say they would have had a very hard time trying to pass these laws themselves, against the left...

Today, former chancellor Schröder enjoys quite a number of "bennies" from his close friendship with Wladimir Putin and his new employer Gazprom/North stream.  Big Grin
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08-19-2019, 11:40 AM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
Off topic discussion can be beneficial, so thanks again.

Americans are being kept ignorant of IMPORTANT world events due to the current partisan political distraction of "Trump" this & that. Researched "Gazprom Nord Stream" and WOW, what a brilliant move by Mr. Putin in his pursuit of Euro dominance. Meanwhile, the president of the United States can only annoy and distance our allies with ignorant bluster, empty threats, broken promises, and lies. With the GNS pipeline in operation, much of Europe will be even more dependent on Russia for their petro energy, while Putin enriches and further empowers both himself and his cohorts.

Further, by threatening to bypass the Ukraine as a current energy transfer terminal that country will have no choice but to accede to Russian domination without any forceful intervention. BRILLIANT !

And now, we return Americans to the latest antics of Trump, AOC, and the Kardashians. We "get what we asked for".
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08-19-2019, 11:55 AM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
BTW, Russian troll participation in our media continues unabated, previously skewed towards supporting the president and denigrating "liberals", now more noticeably plays both sides of the left-right fence to divide Americans .
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08-19-2019, 02:31 PM,
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RE: Unions made America Great !
(08-19-2019, 11:40 AM)Hawnjigs Wrote: With the GNS pipeline in operation, much of Europe will be even more dependent on Russia for their petro energy, while Putin enriches and further empowers both himself and his cohorts.

Further, by threatening to bypass the Ukraine as a current energy transfer terminal that country will have no choice but to accede to Russian domination without any forceful intervention.  BRILLIANT !

"Dependence" is when you don`t have another choice. We still have plenty of other facilities, including terminals for U.S. fracking products. Nothing wrong with north stream, why should we pass on it? I see no reason to depend on Ukrainian good will. There`s 50 shades of grey in the east. I saw a very well researched documentary the other day about the crash of MH17. The Ukrainians knew exactly Putin had send a cutting edge BUK M1 AA-Battery and put it under the command of a half-baked militia leader. They also knew the exact location as it had just managed to down two of their aircraft, not only a SU-25 ground attack plane which is vulnerable to the abundance of manpads the seperatists always had but also a high and fast flying barrel-bombing Antonov which they used to terrorize residential areas. These planes were impossible to distinguish from an airliner so they knew the spot had become a death trap to high and fast flying large planes. Rather than giving a proper warning or closing the airspace, they waited until the bodies of 300 dutch tourists spread over a potatoe field, drawing the eyes of the world to a weapon system that should never have been there.

The failure to anticipate a strategically brilliant move that goes beyond all moral limits tells me that Putins thinking does have boundaries.
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08-19-2019, 06:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-19-2019, 06:53 PM by Hawnjigs.)
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RE: Unions made America Great !
Perhaps your perceived slip by Mr. Putin was actually planned strategy?  So, in the Ukraine there is a coalition with the stupidity to shoot down a civilian airliner and another which allowed it to happen?  Who wins?

Mr. Putin apparently has an advantage of no moral constraints, his critics and adversaries seem to die horribly in full public view with no evidence leading back to him.  Similarly, he is deemed to be the world's wealthiest person but investigators can only review what he allows to be publiclly available.  He is also capable of measured restraint, unlike his wannabe admirer across the Atlantic.

A genius at subterfuge,  the exact mechanism of his USA election meddling remains untraceable, with the result that his perfect puppet is the leader of Russia's #1 rival nation.
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