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American jobs
08-02-2018, 03:39 PM,
RE: American jobs
I strictly refuse to beliefe he was dumb or incompetent or suffering from a disorder or something. I find such believe not only naive but also an insult to his supporters which is making things worse. I`ve met people with such conditions. Making billions, impregnating models and winning presidential election campaigns is not how they roll.

In fact, I have analysed his behavior and use the same strategy for my own guerilla marketing concept. It centers around a film clip sporting a (freaking "continental giant") rabbit that I borrowed from a snake holder ("and as you can see, that ain`t no blindworm") in order to familiarize customers with my working material. The plan is to troll PETA into a nation-wide outrage focussing on the country`s only lure shop that "kills rabbits to kill fish", as said reporter put it in said interview - which I analysed in order to become aware of the cliche he was transporting. I created a mildly retarded personae that lectures (a weakness of mine) the audience that it was illegal to live-feed mammals as that might harm the valuable snake and since animals "had no such thing as a soul that they could use to think for themselfes..."

I showed the film, which of course includes professional underwater footage of hair jigs, to a test audience of 6 kayak anglers on a summit the other day.  One fell into a fundamental-archaic monologe about stone age fishing lures, two were wrenching their brains how they could help me against PETA and the other 3 were asking "that jig in the film, you got that with you?" They had known my merchandise for years and spend 2 evenings on that summit without buying anything until they saw the jig underwater. 

It feels badly counter-intuitive to reject good friend`s advice on the film (less rabbit talk, more fishing stuff etc.) but I know it triggers the emotions I want - outrage, solidarity and interest - so I´ll give it a shot as soon as I finished work on my new, professionalized web presence. The rabbit won`t be available for future films, unfortunately...

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08-03-2018, 09:21 AM,
RE: American jobs
I was wondering if our Presidents accomplishments are because he said so? Like this one lately?

TRUMP at a Pennsylvania rally Thursday night: "U.S. Steel is opening up seven plants." On Tuesday, he told supporters in Florida: "U.S. Steel just announced that they're building six new steel mills."
08-04-2018, 12:07 PM,
RE: American jobs
(08-03-2018, 09:21 AM)Hawnjigs Wrote: TRUMP at a Pennsylvania rally Thursday night: "U.S. Steel is opening up seven plants." On Tuesday, he told supporters in Florida: "U.S. Steel just announced that they're building six new steel mills."

So he got 1 figure wrong. By one. Who cares?? I didn`t even know about new plants. You just told me that. Don`t you get it? The lie is the bait. You swallowed it, and now you`re spreading the message "it works, there are new steel plants being build!". The more you get worked up about it, the more "reach" he scores, and we all get dumber in the process. Deliberate misinformation is a smart thing to do. It works for him. I looked up the 4% rise in gdp hookup mentioned, and no, I will not take that any further.... Wink

Discussion over here goes more into the direction of "how far is your competitiveness affected by higher domestic steel prices if you are e.g. a nail or needle manufacturer?" Some say american steel was inferior for some applications so certain qualities would have to imported regardless the tax. Maybe those jobs outweight the six or seven new steel plants? Huh But hey, its all fake news in the end, no more facts, only opinoins...
08-04-2018, 01:04 PM, (This post was last modified: 08-04-2018, 01:09 PM by Hawnjigs.)
RE: American jobs
The #s discrepancy for anyone who bothered to fact check with US Steel spokesperson commentary was considerably more than 1.

I agree that lies can be used as attention bait.  The reason for posting this topic was a reminder that lies are NOT facts, and liars do NOT speak the truth.
08-07-2018, 11:43 AM,
RE: American jobs
Quote:The reason for posting this topic was a reminder that lies are NOT facts, and liars do NOT speak the truth.

That's what I say about the Clintons
09-01-2018, 07:48 PM, (This post was last modified: 09-02-2018, 10:07 AM by Hawnjigs.)
RE: American jobs
The GDP is being flouted as a measure of economic prosperity.  Not feeling very prosperous, I looked up what metrics are included in the GDP.  I found these noteworthy, among others that are counted in GDP.

Interesting that the same commodity being sold multiple times, for example:  wheat:
farm to a broker
broker to a flour miller
miller to bakery / factory
factory to consumer

Of more concern for upward skewing of the GDP giving the ILLUSION of growth:

1. Defense spending a big 18.6% increase in 2018 $700 billion from 2017 $590 billion
2. Stock buybacks resulting from the massive cut in corporate tax rate from 35% to 22%.  From "The Atlantic" publication:
"The once illegal practice of companies purchasing their own shares is pulling money away from employee compensation, research and development, and other corporate priorities—with potentially sweeping effects on business dynamism, income and wealth inequality, working-class economic stagnation, and the country’s growth rate."
How much money is involved?  From the same "Atlantic" article dated 7/31/18:
" hundreds of billions of dollars on buybacks in the past six months alone."

Edit:  for those that think "left" journalism, whatever that is, is fake news:  Buyback update from "Fortune":
[i]J.P. Morgan estimates that repurchases in 2018 will jump 51% from last year’s mark, to $800 billion, which would be a single-[/i]
[i]year record.  Money spent on buybacks is money that isn’t invested in projects that fuel longer-term success. "[/i]
09-02-2018, 08:52 AM,
RE: American jobs
A few thoughts:

The Atlantic's left of left

GDP numbers drive the US economy and the county

Unemployment numbers are at an all time low

Stock market's going through the roof

Our enemies are scared shitless of Trump
09-02-2018, 09:13 AM,
RE: American jobs
Researching further, those increases in health insurance premiums many are griping about?  Those are also counted in the GDP.  How is that a measure of prosperity ?  Oh right, the insurance companies are posting record profits.

"Despite an initial rough patch in the ACA marketplaces, the ACA Medicaid coverage expansion and subsidies to insurers have resulted in a large increase in health insurer profits. Health insurers’ stock prices more than doubled the impressive gain in the S&P 500 since the law’s main provisions took effect on January 1, 2014. Much of insurers’ increased profitability has resulted from increased Medicaid enrollment and increased payments per enrollee in Medicaid expansion states where the federal government pays nearly all the costs. While insurers initially incurred losses in the ACA marketplaces as they adjusted to new regulations and a relatively unhealthy risk pool, insurers are now profiting on the individual market as well, with higher premiums that are largely covered by federal premium subsidies."

Liberal fake news?  Nope, published on March 2018.

Could there be a connection why Obamacare was NOT replaced by "better cheaper health care" ?
09-02-2018, 09:15 AM,
RE: American jobs
(09-02-2018, 08:52 AM)hookup Wrote: Our enemies are scared shitless of Trump

While not an "enemy" rather than a "foe" in the eyes of your president, I have to say that this is not the case. Personly, I am highly amused and inspired by his personal success. Many are concerned. But nobody is really scared, at least not in a way that would be desireable from an American point of view.
09-02-2018, 10:17 AM,
RE: American jobs
Huh, I thought Germany & the EU, NATO (including Turkey) were our allies ?

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